tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post4669824566244514136..comments2023-04-13T07:18:14.262-07:00Comments on Courierwatch: Casserly: Prescott a microcosm of health care's futureSteven Ayreshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15663818104866997062noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-54535283510819640552010-08-15T08:07:57.379-07:002010-08-15T08:07:57.379-07:00Yes, I can read it. But who has the time to read ...Yes, I can read it. But who has the time to read all the laws that are passed (isn't it 2,000 pages or so), I'm not trained in law either, I'm an engineer? For that matter, who has the time to read all the proposed laws? Is this not one reason for having a representative government? From here on out I will only argue the principles of the matter since the details truly don't matter as much. When I get some time I will comment on this from a principled perspective. I'm understanding the principles better than the minutia of actual law better anyways.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518762624199557168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-49102010541078259642010-08-15T03:46:39.244-07:002010-08-15T03:46:39.244-07:00The actual bill is available for the public online...The actual bill is available for the public online, can't remember the URL at the moment, but it wasn't too hard to find with a search engine. It was a long and boring read but I personally believe in never forming an opinion based on what I've been told by third parties, especially if the information and/or discretionary material are readily obtained. Knowledge is the only true power there is, everything else follows.Brer Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13633239452057454689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-25167011713017140532010-08-12T17:11:47.881-07:002010-08-12T17:11:47.881-07:00Cato was set up specifically to promote the corpor...Cato was set up specifically to promote the corporatist agenda (note: not necessarily the Republican agenda). You can do the homework yourself. Look at the Wikipedia entry for it. Look at its mission statement. Then google Charlie Koch and look for the many political pies he's got his fingers in. You'll even find him single-handedly sponsoring right-wing initiatives right here in Arizona.<br /><br />In your writings here previously you've told and shown me that you're a beginner at this stuff. One of the leading beginner's mistakes is to conclude that everyone who doesn't think like you is trying to sell you a sack of shit. Corollaries are that everyone who doesn't think like you is bought into a sack of shit, and that everyone who apparently thinks like you is being fair about it. I urge you to resist this egocentric pitfall. Sometimes your first conclusion is just wrong.<br /><br />There are plenty of reasons to oppose health-care reform or prefer approaching it a different way. What's muddying this issue (and most political issues these days) so badly is the unprecedented freedom large monied interests (like Koch) feel about lying to you, even about easily checked facts, to protect their narrow interests. Lazy media people pick these lies up and repeat them as reasonable opinions, as JJ is doing in this article. <br /><br />When people are unclear about the benefits of a given complex change, like you are here, they easily become willing sponges for cheap and easy untruths to support their gut feelings, bypassing the critical thinking and homework necessary to properly evaluate the positions they take.<br /><br />I've been doing this since the mid-'70s, d. I'm nobody's fool and nobody's shill. You can trust that or not, it's no skin off my ass.Steven Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15663818104866997062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-71600166310501549012010-08-12T16:29:14.768-07:002010-08-12T16:29:14.768-07:00Fascinating, when I post a Cato link on a conserva...Fascinating, when I post a Cato link on a conservative blog they say Cato is a know left wing organization. They must be doing their job if neither liberals nor conservatives will listen to them.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518762624199557168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-39869603511970716522010-08-12T15:40:46.434-07:002010-08-12T15:40:46.434-07:00Sorry, you're mistaking Cato for a news organi...Sorry, you're mistaking Cato for a news organization or academic referee. Cato is and always has been a right-wing propaganda generator, and not even a high-class one.Steven Ayreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15663818104866997062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8310158610197025977.post-52560818818339336682010-08-12T15:20:44.133-07:002010-08-12T15:20:44.133-07:00We all like to believe what we like to believe it ...We all like to believe what we like to believe it seems. <br /><br />Cato Institute (by Michael F. Cannon) just put out a blog post that confirms some of the accusations made by JJ. So he might be wrong on some but he is probably correct on the others.<br /><br />http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/08/12/usa-today-abets-obamacare-supporters-misinformation-campaign/Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05518762624199557168noreply@blogger.com